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Gwenhywar · Nov 15, 2005, 03:34 PM // 15:34

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Originally Posted by AncientPC

Why would they sell at 50-75% of the max price?
Because their goal is to sell quickly for the max profit available. You're right, they make their money selling gold and they get that gold by selling items to human players. They farm so much that their inventories are swelled up to the point that they would rather dump at 75% market value than try to push for 100%.

Exactly. I've bought all my recent weapon upgrades from chinese farmers, and most of the time they're willing to drop the initial price considerably if they see an interested byer. Might depend on the time of the day too (they must have hours when their working shift is soon to be over and they are supposed to hand the gold over the boss, or something like that - I've read an article about farmers in WoW and that's how it worked there, should work in a similar way in every gold farming "sweatshop").

Since my chinese is nonexistant I usually trade with those farmers that come to sell their things in Droknar's and talk some English

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Originally Posted by Willy Rockwell

I thought Numa's comment was very helpful.

Someone may sound nice, but post the wrong info nonetheless. Which is what I was implying.

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Originally Posted by Willy Rockwell

Do you expect us all to read every single thread on this very large board before we comment on something?

Well, this is YOUR thread, and only contains 4 pages. Yes, I do expect the thread's author to have read through the thread he started himself ... why would one start a topic if they're not interested to read what others have to say about it?

Yichi · Nov 15, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17

I love that place. recently bought 5 unid req 8 axes for 50k.... after id'ing and salving, ended up making around 200k. One axe was a req 8 15>50 with 8% furious and 30 health that sold in game for about 85k. and got 2 +30 health grips out of it. guess i was just lucky then.

my sword that my warrior uses when i cant decide on axe or sword is a req 7 falchion 14>50, 10% furious, health +29 that i bought unid for 15k. guess i have good luck with those farmers

Gwenhywar · Nov 15, 2005, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by MistressYichi

I love that place. recently bought 5 unid req 8 axes for 50k.... after id'ing and salving, ended up making around 200k. One axe was a req 8 15>50 with 8% furious and 30 health that sold in game for about 85k. and got 2 +30 health grips out of it. guess i was just lucky then.

my sword that my warrior uses when i cant decide on axe or sword is a req 7 falchion 14>50, 10% furious, health +29 that i bought unid for 15k. guess i have good luck with those farmers

Heh, I think you was either very lucky or met a newbie farmer, which means lucky again

. I heard they usually equip the unid weapons, and no way they'll sell a req 8 fellblade if it gives the wearer +30 HP when equipped.

But then, I haven't bought any of the unid things myself.

Yichi · Nov 15, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Actually most of the time you can talk their prices down, thats how i got that falchion. he wanted 30k for it, i said "15k ok?" and he accepted. they are out to get gold fast. Same thing happend in ID 1 + 2 of Tombs. found some good sales there too for friends / chars that i can never decide on. lol

wait id better stop, im giving my secrets away......

Wraparound · Nov 15, 2005, 09:42 PM // 21:42

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Originally Posted by Whosaidwhatnow

XD

This thread has me dying...

Everyone is discussing these guys like they're some sort of rare breed of giraffe on Animal Planet...

"Observe the Asian in his natural habitat... here he is conversing in his native tongue... 'Asian'... he's probably being paid 1 dollar in some labor camp in the 'Far East' to farm for his slavemaster boss".

As a person who lives in Asia I can assure you people aren't playing computer games in concentration camps... and "Asian" is not a language.

They go to Int districts to sell to expand their market to the other servers. Simple.

That is quite possibly THE funniest thing I've ever read on these forums.

And this topic is getting ridiculous.

Sereng Amaranth · Nov 16, 2005, 12:46 AM // 00:46

its like fishing in the Asian sea....you throw out a couple shou's, maybe sprinkle some jin mai liao's on there...hope to get a nibble, but its not over yet...then you have to reel them in by offering what you think they want for the item they randomly put in the trade window

I bought an unid hammer for 1k...turned out to be 17<50, +5AR and 5/1 vamp.

RobotMULE · Nov 16, 2005, 02:10 AM // 02:10

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Originally Posted by Gwenhywar

I heard they usually equip the unid weapons, and no way they'll sell a req 8 fellblade if it gives the wearer +30 HP when equipped.

But then, I haven't bought any of the unid things myself.

Interesting.. I always assumed that when its UnID'd the mods dont work yet. I'll have to test this out. If this is the case I'm surprised I havent seen peple spamming "WTS UnID +30hp mod sword" etc (similar to how peple sell UnID Superior Vigor for example).

Gaile Gray · Nov 16, 2005, 06:59 AM // 06:59

We'll gladly accept reports on apparent bots or professional (hired) farmers. Please submit the character name, district, and date and time, with time zone, to help us do some research.

Remember, no one is ever banned because someone makes a report. We do check, and double check, before we take action. But it's good to know that your report will help us solve the problem. So do let us know if you see probable bots: support.guildwars.com

semantic · Nov 16, 2005, 08:27 AM // 08:27

That place sure is a strange sight. For one thing, I'm guessing there's no higher concentration of monks anywhere in Tyria. And once that sinks in, the meta-realization that you're standing (virtually) amid a throng of what happen to be Chinese monks hawking weapons makes it truly surreal.

Willy Rockwell · Nov 16, 2005, 01:06 PM // 13:06

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

We'll gladly accept reports on apparent bots or professional (hired) farmers. Please submit the character name, district, and date and time, with time zone, to help us do some research.

Remember, no one is ever banned because someone makes a report. We do check, and double check, before we take action. But it's good to know that your report will help us solve the problem. So do let us know if you see probable bots: support.guildwars.com

Here is the population of Augury International 1 at 8am EST on Wednesday November 16. All of these characters are suspected hired farmers or bots.

Numa Pompilius · Nov 16, 2005, 01:14 PM // 13:14

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

We'll gladly accept reports on apparent bots or professional (hired) farmers. Please submit the character name, district, and date and time, with time zone, to help us do some research.

It'd be difficult to submit the name, date, and time of perhaps 200 monks, but the place is Augury Rock, international district, seven days a week, 24 hours per day. You can't miss them.

Sister Rosette · Nov 16, 2005, 01:24 PM // 13:24

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Originally Posted by Willy Rockwell

Here is the population of Augury International 1 at 8am EST on Wednesday November 16. All of these characters are suspected hired farmers or bots.

Is anyone besides me curious how one of those names has a number in it?

Lord Iowerth · Nov 19, 2005, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by RobotMULE

Interesting.. I always assumed that when its UnID'd the mods dont work yet. I'll have to test this out. If this is the case I'm surprised I havent seen peple spamming "WTS UnID +30hp mod sword" etc (similar to how peple sell UnID Superior Vigor for example).

That was my assumption as well ... has anyone confirmed that you can do something like this? I've unlocked most of my upgrades, so I would like to start selling un-id'd low req. items with detectable mods, that would be neat

Studio Ghibli · Nov 19, 2005, 07:01 PM // 19:01

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Originally Posted by AncientPC

They're pissing off American farmers though, can't keep up in the price wars.

Just like in the real world. ;D

kai_razorwind · Nov 20, 2005, 03:28 AM // 03:28

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

We'll gladly accept reports on apparent bots or professional (hired) farmers. Please submit the character name, district, and date and time, with time zone, to help us do some research.

Remember, no one is ever banned because someone makes a report. We do check, and double check, before we take action. But it's good to know that your report will help us solve the problem. So do let us know if you see probable bots: support.guildwars.com

Gaile, Augury rock INT dis 1...they're always there. Anytime,anyday,just check out the logs. You might also want to check out people with "hao" on their names. every single "something Hao" or "hao something" I've ever met in this game (dont know if thats a word in korean or chinese) spams LA d1 with unid gold items, more often than not 10 at a time. Not to mention they're also all monks.

heist23 · Nov 20, 2005, 06:44 AM // 06:44

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Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

Is anyone besides me curious how one of those names has a number in it?

seems like just 1.

AncientPC · Nov 20, 2005, 07:31 AM // 07:31

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Originally Posted by kai_razorwind

Gaile, Augury rock INT dis 1...they're always there. Anytime,anyday,just check out the logs. You might also want to check out people with "hao" on their names. every single "something Hao" or "hao something" I've ever met in this game (dont know if thats a word in korean or chinese) spams LA d1 with unid gold items, more often than not 10 at a time. Not to mention they're also all monks.

How does this prove that they're professional farmers? How is this different from all the spammers in Ascalon / Droknar's Forge / War Camp? I see the same 5 people spamming in each district daily. Simply being there does not mean someone is a professional farmer.

This thread's turning into a big witch hunt. OMG the Asian farmers are taking over GW! They're everywhere!

Numa Pompilius · Nov 20, 2005, 11:43 AM // 11:43

AncientPC: Have you been to intl district? Except during frog-events, in Lions Arch and Ascalon there's perhaps ten people in the single district there is. On a good day you may get as many as, oh, twenty people there. In most towns you'll be all alone.

Last I checked Augury Rock there's perhaps 200. All of them monks. Half of them repeatedly running out the west exit, with about two minute intervals, half just stand around, sometimes spamming WTS in Chinese. There's usually even more than one district.

You're not seriously going to claim that these are ordinary players, are you?

Sure, there are five real players in there somewhere, and they may even be monks, but I'd bet 10K that the bulk of them are farmers, operating multiple heavily scripted farming avatars and mules.

Yes, there are spambots/mules and professional farmers in other places as well - I met some at Augury Rock EU servers yesterday - but the bulk of the Farming Army is presently at Augury Rock, intl.

AncientPC · Nov 20, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51

1) Obviously from my previous posts I have been to Augury Int 1 very often.

2) If you go into any other trading district, the spam is just the same. The only difference in Augury 1 is that you can't understand the spam, therefore they must be bots.

3) The number of monks farming grypons is much lower now due to the patch. If you went to Augury or TOA pre-aoe nerf, there just as many if not more solo monks going out Augury or entering UW on the American realm.

What some of you guys are blatantly insisting is that if you're speaking "Asianese" in Augury 1, you're automatically labeled as a professional bot / farmer.

Divinus Stella · Nov 20, 2005, 06:59 PM // 18:59

Theres a fair amount of bots in English districts, or hired farmers as they might be, definately asian tho, i dont know why they wanna come to Eu servers tho, nobody can understand them, they just stand around saying crap like "shou wu qi ca lia +30 10/10 789", "show? ok i sell 40k ok?".